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Nokia Oyj provides mobile, fixed, and cloud network solutions globally. Its Network Infrastructure segment, particularly optical and IP networks, is a primary g

Nokia Oyj provides mobile, fixed, and cloud network solutions globally. Its Network Infrastructure segment, particularly optical and IP networks, is a primary growth engine, driven by strong demand from AI and cloud customers. Mobile Infrastructure focuses on profitability, while Nokia Technologies licenses intellectual property. The company serves communication service providers, webscales, hyperscalers, and governments.

What They Do (Plain English & Analogies)
Nokia is like the architect and builder of the digital highways and cities that allow our phones, computers, and smart devices to connect and communicate. They create the underlying infrastructure – the roads (fiber optics, radio waves), the traffic lights (routing), and the power stations (data centers) – that make the internet and mobile networks work. They also license their foundational inventions, like charging a toll for using their patented road designs. Essentially, Nokia provides the essential equipment and software that communication service providers, large internet companies, and governments need to build and run their networks, from mobile phone towers to the fiber optic cables connecting data centers.
Very Brief History
Founded in 1865 as a single paper mill operation in Finland, Nokia diversified over the decades into rubber, cables, and electronics. It became a global leader in mobile phones in the 1990s, pioneering GSM technology. After selling its mobile phone business to Microsoft in 2013, Nokia strategically pivoted to focus on network infrastructure, notably acquiring Alcatel-Lucent in 2016 to strengthen its position. More recently, in 2024, Nokia acquired Infinera to boost its optical networking capabilities and Fenix Group to expand its defense portfolio.
"Street Stereotype"
Nokia is generally perceived as a legacy mobile phone giant that successfully transformed into a major player in telecom network infrastructure. While still battling intense competition in traditional telecom markets, it is increasingly seen as a crucial "picks and shovels" provider for the accelerating AI data center buildout, particularly in optical networking, while also navigating cyclical telecom spending and geopolitical factors.
Subsidiaries On Linked In*
  • Infinera — Acquired by Nokia in 2024, now integrated into Nokia's Optical Networks business.; LinkedIn: infinera
  • Nokia Shanghai Bell — Joint venture, now fully owned by Nokia.; LinkedIn: nokia-shanghai-bell
  • Nokia Defense — New incubation unit for defense portfolio.; LinkedIn: nokia-defense
  • Nokia Federal Solutions — Dedicated entity for U.S. federal government.; LinkedIn: nokia-federal-solutions
  • Nokia Bell Labs — Award-winning industrial research and scientific development company.; LinkedIn: nokia-bell-labs
  • Nokia Networks — Wholly owned subsidiary focusing on network equipment.; LinkedIn: nokia-networks
  • Nuage Networks — SDN (Software-Defined Networking) solutions.; LinkedIn: nuagenetworks
  • NGP Capital — Venture capital firm.; LinkedIn: ngpcapital
  • Alcatel Submarine Networks — Provider of submarine cable systems.; LinkedIn: alcatel-submarine-networks
  • Radio Frequency Systems (RFS) — Provider of wireless infrastructure solutions.; LinkedIn: radio-frequency-systems-rfs
Customer Sectors & Example Clients
Nokia's customers span communications service providers (telcos), webscales, hyperscalers (AI and cloud customers), digital industries, and government entities. Specific clients mentioned or inferred include leading telecommunication providers such as Telia, Bharti Airtel, Telecom Italia, Telefonica Germany, SoftBank, and AT&T. In the government sector, Nokia Federal Solutions serves U.S. federal agencies across defense, homeland security, energy, intelligence, utilities, and civilian sectors, while Nokia Defense targets Finland and other NATO countries. Hyperscalers are significant customers for their AI and cloud infrastructure build-out.
New Customers / Segments They'Re Targeting
Nokia is actively targeting "AI and cloud customers," particularly hyperscalers, for their strong demand in optical and IP networks. They are expanding into the "mission-critical enterprise customer segment" by offering solutions that prioritize scale, security, and availability. A significant new focus is "Nokia Defense," an incubation unit aimed at serving Finland and other NATO countries with 4G and 5G technology for military and national security applications. The company is also expanding its presence in the rapidly growing data center switching market and sees opportunities in "scale across" and "scale out" for coherent optics within data centers.
Supply Chain And Sourcing Geographies
Nokia's supply chain includes manufacturing and R&D facilities across various geographies. A key component is its indium phosphide technology and manufacturing facility in California, which received partial funding from the U.S. CHIPS Act. Infinera, now part of Nokia, operates a fab in Sunnyvale, California, with component packaging in Allentown, Pennsylvania, and plans for new facilities in San Jose, California, and Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. Nokia has also established a manufacturing plant in Pleasant Prairie, Wisconsin, in partnership with Sanmina, to produce optical line terminals (OLTs) and optical network terminals (ONTs) for "Buy America" initiatives. The company maintains a significant footprint in Europe, with R&D centers in Finland (Espoo, Oulu, Tampere), France (Paris-Saclay), Germany (Munich, Stuttgart), Belgium (Antwerp), Hungary (Budapest), and the UK (Cambridge).
Sales Geographies And Expansion Plans
Nokia sells its products worldwide, with significant operations across North America, APAC (including Japan, Indonesia, India, and Greater China), Europe, and the Middle East and Africa. While facing some declines in India and Greater China in Q4 2025, Europe and North America showed strength in Network Infrastructure. The company explicitly plans to expand sales for its Nokia Defense unit into Finland and other NATO countries. Its Nokia Federal Solutions entity is dedicated to serving the U.S. federal government. Nokia's overall strategy includes capturing growth from AI and cloud customers globally.
How Key Themes May Help/Hurt
The **Optical Connectivity '26: AI Network Systems** and **Optical Connectivity '26: Silicon Photonics & Optical Engines** themes are significant tailwinds for Nokia. The explosive demand from the relentless AI data center buildout directly drives growth in Nokia's Network Infrastructure, particularly its Optical and IP Networks, where it is investing heavily and seeing strong order intake from AI and cloud customers. Nokia's vertical integration with indium phosphide technology positions it well to capitalize on critical supply chain bottlenecks and the fundamental technological transition from electrical to photonic interconnects. However, uncertainty regarding the widespread adoption timeline of Co-Packaged Optics (CPO) could affect long-term product roadmaps, and cyclicality in legacy telecom markets may offset some AI-driven growth. The **Connectivity '24: Wireless** theme presents a mixed outlook. Nokia is positioned to benefit from a cyclical recovery in telecom infrastructure spending and new market opportunities arising from OpenRAN initiatives for its 5G advanced and O-RAN solutions. Conversely, geopolitical tensions could disrupt supply chains and market access, and the intensifying competitive landscape in wireless technology poses ongoing challenges. For the **Humanoid '25: Tele-operation & Comms** theme, Nokia stands to benefit from the increasing need for low-latency communication networks that are crucial for tele-operation and humanoid robot autonomy. Its expertise in 5G/6G, private wireless, and mission-critical networks directly supports the growth in private 5G and Industrial IoT infrastructure spend, which is a key metric for this theme, enabling advanced industrial automation and enterprise solutions.

3 Main Long-Term Bull Details

  1. AI-driven Optical and IP Networks Growth: Nokia is strategically positioned and investing heavily in its Network Infrastructure segment, particularly Optical and IP Networks, to capture strong structural demand from AI and cloud customers. This segment is targeted for 6-8% compound annual growth rate (CAGR) between 2025-2028, with Optical and IP Networks specifically targeting 10-12% growth.
  2. Strategic Repositioning and Enhanced Portfolio: The acquisition of Infinera significantly strengthens Nokia's optical networking capabilities, while the new operating model and focus on differentiation, scale, and sustainable market leadership (including the new Nokia Defense unit) aim to unlock long-term value creation.
  3. Technology Leadership and Intellectual Property Monetization: Nokia continues to invest in next-generation technologies like 5G advanced, O-RAN, 6G, and AI-native networks, supported by co-innovation partnerships (e.g., NVIDIA). Its strong patent portfolio provides a stable annual net sales run rate of approximately EUR 1.4 billion.

3 Main Long-Term Bear Details

  1. Mobile Infrastructure Market Headwinds and Profitability Focus: The Mobile Infrastructure segment faces top-line headwinds from prior contract losses (e.g., AT&T) and operates in a largely stable (flat) market. The focus here is on improving gross margin and operating profit rather than significant revenue growth, indicating a challenging environment for expansion.
  2. Portfolio Businesses Restructuring and Divestiture Risk: Nokia has moved several non-core businesses into a new "Portfolio Businesses" unit, which generated an operating loss in 2025. The company's target to "conclude a future direction for each of them" in 2026 suggests potential divestitures or further restructuring, which could incur costs and uncertainty.
  3. Intense Competition and High Investment Requirements: Operating in highly competitive global markets for telecom and network equipment necessitates continuous, substantial R&D and capital expenditures to maintain technological leadership and market share. This ongoing investment can pressure margins and free cash flow, especially if market growth is slower than anticipated or competition intensifies.
Competitors And Differentiation
Nokia competes with major telecommunications equipment providers such as Ericsson, Huawei, and Samsung in mobile networks, and with companies like Cisco, Juniper, Ciena, and Arista in IP and optical networks. Nokia differentiates itself through its cloud-native core network stack, investments in 5G advanced, O-RAN, 6G, and AI-native networks, and its proprietary indium phosphide technology and manufacturing capabilities in optical networks. The acquisition of Infinera has further strengthened its optical portfolio. Nokia also emphasizes its Agentic AI solution for network automation, and its focus on scale, security, and availability for mission-critical enterprise customers. The company also leverages its extensive patent portfolio for monetization and focuses on co-innovation, such as its partnership with NVIDIA for AI-RAN.
Recent Performance & What The Market'S Focused On
Nokia's Q4 2025 performance was in line with expectations, with net sales growing 3% to EUR 6.1 billion and full-year net sales at EUR 19.9 billion. Operating profit for the full year was EUR 2 billion, slightly above the midpoint of guidance, with free cash flow conversion at 72%. Network Infrastructure showed strong growth (Q4 net sales +7%, Optical Networks +17%), driven by AI and cloud customers. Mobile Networks net sales increased 6% in Q4, while Nokia Technologies net sales declined 17% in Q4. For 2026, Nokia targets an operating profit of EUR 2 billion to EUR 2.5 billion. The market is focused on Nokia's disciplined execution to capture growth in AI and cloud (especially in Optical and IP Networks), expand Network Infrastructure operating margin, and improve efficiency and profitability in Mobile Infrastructure despite top-line headwinds. Investors are also closely watching the impact of increased CapEx (EUR 900 million to EUR 1 billion) for Optical Networks manufacturing capacity and the strategic direction of the new Portfolio Businesses.
Revenue Segments And Estimated Mix
  • Network Infrastructure — Mix: ~38.4%; Source: Recast 2025 financials for new operating structure; Trend: Primary growth engine, targeting 6-8% CAGR (2025-2028) and 10-12% for Optical and IP Networks.
  • Mobile Infrastructure — Mix: ~57.3%; Source: Recast 2025 financials for new operating structure; Trend: Includes Core Networks, Radio Networks, and Technology Standards. Expects top-line headwinds from prior contract losses in 2026, focus on profitability.
  • Portfolio Businesses — Mix: ~4.2%; Source: Recast 2025 financials for new operating structure; Trend: Includes Fixed Wireless Access CPE, Site Operations, Microwave Radio, and Enterprise Campus Edge. Generated operating loss in 2025, target to conclude future direction in 2026.
Product Brands
  • 800-gig ZR
  • 800-gig ZR+
  • 7220 IXR-H6
  • Agentic AI solution for event-driven automation management
  • AirScale platform
  • Nokia's Network as Code API platform
  • Nokia Wi-Fi Beacon 1
  • Nokia Wi-Fi Beacon 3
  • Nokia Corteca software
  • FX OLT
  • MF OLT
  • SF-8M sealed OLT
  • XS-220X-A ONT
  • Banshee (Fenix Group)
  • Talon (Fenix Group)
Bull / Bear Details

Nokia is strongly positioned to capitalize on the accelerating AI super cycle, with its Network Infrastructure segment, particularly Optical and IP Networks, dr

Thesis

Nokia is strongly positioned to capitalize on the accelerating AI super cycle, with its Network Infrastructure segment, particularly Optical and IP Networks, driving significant growth through innovative AI-optimized solutions and robust customer demand. While strategic investments will impact short-term margins, the long-term outlook is bullish, reinforced by raised market growth expectations and strong Q1 2026 performance. (Updated: 2026-04-28)

Bull case

  • Nokia is directly benefiting from the accelerating AI super cycle, with AI and cloud customer net sales growing 49% and EUR 1 billion in new orders in Q1 2026. The company significantly raised its 2025-2028 AI and cloud addressable market CAGR from 16% to 27%, and its 2026 Network Infrastructure growth target from 6-8% to 12-14%.

  • Nokia is driving innovation and competitive advantage in Optical and IP Networks. New hyperscale multi-rail solutions, offering 8x density and 25% more density than competitors, will ship later this year. A new building block architecture with 4 optical engines will enable 13 application-optimized solutions, simplifying deployment and reducing TCO by up to 70%.

  • The company delivered a solid Q1 2026, with net sales up 4%, gross margin expanding 320 basis points, and operating margin up 200 basis points. Nokia generated EUR 629 million in free cash flow and is tracking above the midpoint of its full-year comparable operating profit guidance, demonstrating strong operational execution and financial health.

Bear case

  • Increased investments in R&D, sales and marketing, and production to capture long-term AI opportunities are expected to impact gross margins through the year and operating margins in the short term. This is reflected in Network Infrastructure's Q1 operating margin being 30 basis points below the prior year due to Infinera expenses.

  • The Mobile Infrastructure segment faces continued top-line headwinds from prior contract losses and operates in a largely flat telecom market. While focused on profitability, gross margins are expected to be weaker in Q2 and Q3 2026 before improving in Q4, indicating ongoing challenges in this segment.

  • Supply chain constraints in the broader semiconductor ecosystem and the need to ramp indium phosphide manufacturing capacity are leading to elongated order cycles, with lead times for Optical products now 12-18 months. This could potentially limit Nokia's ability to fully capitalize on immediate demand.

Bull / Bear Case
Bear Case
Despite strong Q1 performance, Nokia faces headwinds from increased investments in R&D, sales and marketing, and production, which are expected to impact gross margins throughout the year and operating margins in the short term. Network Infrastructure's Q1 operating margin was 30 basis points below the prior year due to Infinera expenses. The Mobile Infrastructure segment continues to face top-line challenges from prior contract losses and operates in a largely flat telecom market, with gross margins expected to be weaker in Q2 and Q3 2026. Additionally, supply chain constraints in the broader semiconductor ecosystem and the ramp-up of indium phosphide manufacturing capacity are leading to elongated order cycles, with lead times for Optical products now 12-18 months, potentially limiting Nokia's ability to fully capitalize on immediate demand.
Bull Case
Nokia is strategically positioned to capitalize on the accelerating AI super cycle, with its Network Infrastructure segment, particularly Optical and IP Networks, driving significant growth. In Q1 2026, net sales to AI and cloud customers grew 49%, contributing EUR 1 billion in new orders. The company has significantly raised its 2025-2028 AI and cloud addressable market CAGR from 16% to 27%, and its 2026 Network Infrastructure growth target from 6-8% to 12-14%. Innovations like new hyperscale multi-rail solutions and a building block architecture for optical engines offer competitive advantages, simplifying deployment and reducing total cost of ownership. Nokia delivered a solid Q1 2026 with 4% net sales growth, 320 basis points gross margin expansion, and EUR 629 million in free cash flow, tracking above the midpoint of its full-year comparable operating profit guidance.
More Compelling & Why
Bear. Nokia's current valuation appears significantly stretched, with an EV/EBITDA of 21.69x, which is 158% above its 10-year median of 8.41x. While the company shows strong growth potential in AI-driven Network Infrastructure, the market seems to be pricing in much of this future growth, leading to a 'Significantly Overvalued' rating by some analysts. The strongest argument for the bear case is that the current premium valuation leaves little room for error, especially with anticipated short-term margin pressures and Mobile Infrastructure headwinds. My view would flip to bullish if Nokia consistently delivers comparable operating profit above the upper end of its guidance (EUR 2.5 billion) and demonstrates a quicker-than-expected improvement in Mobile Infrastructure profitability, justifying the current valuation with sustained, accelerated earnings and cash flow generation.
Key Factors5 rows
Key FactorWhy It MattersWhat To WatchWhat It SignalsWhere/How To TrackFree Alt DataPaid Alt Data
Network Infrastructure (Optical & IP Networks) Growth RateThis segment is Nokia's primary growth engine, driven by accelerating AI and cloud demand. Sustained or further accelerated growth confirms Nokia's strong market position and ability to capitalize on the AI super cycle, directly impacting revenue and investor sentiment.Full-year 2026 growth rate for Network Infrastructure (updated to 12% to 14%) and specifically for Optical and IP Networks combined (updated to 18% to 20%).Bullish: Network Infrastructure growth consistently at or above 12% to 14% for the full year 2026, and Optical and IP Networks combined at or above 18% to 20% for the full year 2026.Nokia's Q2 2026 and subsequent quarterly earnings reports and investor presentations.Industry reports on data center infrastructure spending (e.g., from Dell'Oro Group, IDC), news from hyperscalers on CapEx plans.Dell'Oro Group: Optical Transport Market Share; IDC: Worldwide Network Infrastructure Spending.
IP Networks Revenue Acceleration and New Design Wins ConversionIP Networks is expected to accelerate growth in Q2 due to new design wins, contributing significantly to the overall Network Infrastructure growth and validating Nokia's strategy in data center switching and routing.IP Networks sales growth in Q2 2026 (Q1 was 3%). Announcements of new design wins translating into tangible orders and revenue ramp-up.Bullish: IP Networks sales growth accelerating to double-digit percentages in Q2 2026, and public announcements of new design wins translating into significant orders.Nokia's Q2 2026 earnings report and subsequent investor calls. Company press releases regarding new customer wins.Industry analyst reports on data center switching market share; tech news outlets covering enterprise networking.Gartner Peer Insights: Customer reviews for Nokia's IP networking solutions; Evercore ISI: Data Center Switching Market Tracker.
Indium Phosphide Manufacturing Facility Ramp-up and New Optical Product ShipmentsThe successful ramp-up of the San Jose fab is critical for Nokia to meet the increasing demand for optical components, especially for next-generation hyperscale solutions, and to maintain its competitive edge in the high-growth optical market.Updates on the production ramp-up of the new indium phosphide manufacturing facility in San Jose, California, later this year. Shipments of the new hyperscale multi-rail solution (beginning later this year).Bullish: Confirmation in Q3 or Q4 2026 earnings reports that the San Jose indium phosphide manufacturing facility has begun ramping production on schedule and initial shipments of the new hyperscale multi-rail solution have commenced.Nokia's Q2, Q3, and Q4 2026 earnings calls and press releases. Industry conferences (e.g., OFC updates).Local news in San Jose regarding manufacturing facility progress; industry publications on optical component supply.Supply Chain Insights: Semiconductor fab utilization rates (general proxy); Yole Développement: Indium Phosphide Wafer Market Report.
AI & Cloud Customer New Orders and Network Infrastructure Book-to-BillStrong new orders and a book-to-bill ratio above 1 from AI and cloud customers demonstrate sustained demand and future revenue visibility in Nokia's highest-growth market, indicating continued market traction.Total new orders from AI and cloud customers in Q2 2026 and subsequent quarters (Q1 was EUR 1 billion). Network Infrastructure book-to-bill ratio (Q1 was well above 1).Bullish: New orders from AI and cloud customers exceeding EUR 1 billion in Q2 2026 and subsequent quarters, and Network Infrastructure book-to-bill consistently well above 1.Nokia's Q2 2026 and subsequent quarterly earnings reports and investor presentations.Hyperscaler earnings calls and investor days for CapEx updates; industry news on data center buildouts.Thinknum: Hyperscaler job postings related to network infrastructure; Sensor Tower: App downloads of major cloud providers (indirect).
Mobile Infrastructure Gross Margin ProgressionWhile not a growth segment, Mobile Infrastructure's profitability is crucial. The specific guidance for weaker Q2/Q3 margins followed by stronger Q4 indicates a clear path to achieving long-term targets and improving overall company profitability.Mobile Infrastructure gross margin percentage in Q2 and Q3 2026 (Q1 was 48.5%). Confirmation of stronger gross margins in Q4 2026, consistent with typical seasonality.Bullish: Mobile Infrastructure gross margins in Q2 and Q3 2026 are in line with or better than 'somewhat weaker' expectations, followed by a strong rebound in Q4 2026 towards the 48% to 50% target.Nokia's Q2, Q3, and Q4 2026 earnings reports.Industry reports on mobile network equipment pricing trends; competitor earnings calls for margin commentary.Supply Chain Brain: Component pricing for telecom equipment; Bloomberg Terminal: Analyst consensus for Mobile Infrastructure margins.
Key Reported Metrics3 rows
MetricWhy It MattersLast Period
Comparable Operating Profit YoY GrowthThis metric reflects Nokia's overall profitability and efficiency across its operations. Despite increased investments in growth areas, management aims to track above the midpoint of their full-year operating profit guidance, making its progression crucial.54.6%
Network Infrastructure Net Sales GrowthNetwork Infrastructure is Nokia's primary growth engine, driven by strong demand from AI and cloud customers. Its performance indicates the company's success in capitalizing on the AI super cycle and strategic repositioning.6%
Optical Networks Net Sales GrowthAs a key driver within Network Infrastructure, Optical Networks' growth is critical for Nokia's overall performance, reflecting its ability to meet the increasing demand for high-speed connectivity in AI data centers.20%
Key Questions

Can Nokia effectively translate its strong AI and cloud customer orders and significantly raised Network Infrastructure growth targets (18-20% for Optical/IP Ne

Can Nokia effectively translate its strong AI and cloud customer orders and significantly raised Network Infrastructure growth targets (18-20% for Optical/IP Networks) into actual revenue, particularly with IP Networks accelerating in Q2, while managing supply chain constraints and longer lead times for optical products?

Question 2

Will Nokia's increased investments in scaling Optical Networks capacity and new product development, along with the impact of new product introductions on H1 margins, be sufficiently offset by Infinera integration synergies and volume growth to enable the Optical Networks segment to achieve double-digit operating margins and contribute meaningfully to group profitability?

Question 3

Can Nokia's Mobile Infrastructure segment successfully navigate its expected "somewhat weaker" gross margins in Q2/Q3 and demonstrate clear progress towards its long-term profitability targets, while the Fixed Networks segment effectively manages its strategic shift away from lower-margin CPE products without further significant revenue declines?

Earnings Transcript Summary2 rows
· 2026Q1 Earnings Call
3 Things Management Is Most Focused OnCall Takeaway & TonePrior Quarter'S Y/Y Growth By Segment3 Things Analysts Most Pressed On (And Mgmt Responses)Revenue Segments
1. Capitalizing on the AI super cycle and maximizing growth in Network Infrastructure: Management emphasized the accelerating demand from AI and cloud customers, leading to increased addressable market and higher growth assumptions for Network Infrastructure (12-14% from 6-8%) and Optical/IP Networks (18-20% from 10-12%). They are investing to capture this long-term opportunity. 2. Accelerating innovation and product development, especially in Optical and IP Networks: This includes introducing new hyperscale multi-rail solutions, evolving to a building block architecture with multiple optical engines, and securing new design wins in IP networks, benefiting from Infinera acquisition synergies. They are also ramping up indium phosphide manufacturing. 3. Improving profitability and efficiency across the business: This involves streamlining Mobile Infrastructure, focusing on higher-margin products in Fixed Networks, and implementing ongoing cost-saving programs. The goal for Mobile Infrastructure is to become more profitable and deliver an attractive return on invested capital.The call conveyed a cautiously optimistic and highly strategic tone. Nokia reported a solid start to 2026, primarily driven by strong performance in Network Infrastructure, particularly Optical Networks, fueled by accelerating demand from AI and cloud customers. Management significantly raised growth expectations for Network Infrastructure and Optical/IP Networks, emphasizing their strategic investments in innovation, product development, and manufacturing capacity (like the indium phosphide fab) to capitalize on the long-term AI super cycle. While acknowledging supply chain constraints and the need for continued investment impacting short-term margins, the company expressed confidence in its ability to capture market share and improve overall profitability through disciplined execution and portfolio optimization. The focus is clearly on long-term value creation in high-growth areas.Network Infrastructure: +7% Y/Y (Q4 2025). Optical Networks: +17% Y/Y (Q4 2025). Fixed Networks: Stable Y/Y (Q4 2025). IP Networks: +5% Y/Y (FY25). Mobile Networks: +6% Y/Y (Q4 2025). Technology Standards (Nokia Technologies): -17% Y/Y (Q4 2025).1. Raised guidance for Optical and IP Networks and its drivers: Analysts questioned the basis for the significantly increased growth assumptions for Optical and IP Networks. Management responded that the optimism stems from increased confidence in supply, including the fab and other optical subsystem components, and growing traction and visibility in IP networking, particularly with strong demand for 800-gig pluggables. 2. AI and cloud-related orders, book-to-bill, and potential delivery constraints: Analysts inquired about the timing of revenue recognition from the strong order intake (EUR 1 billion, largely Optical) and any supply limitations. Management clarified that their focus is on maximizing demand, acknowledged some elongation of the order cycle (12-18 months for Optical), and pointed to general semiconductor ecosystem constraints and the need to build indium phosphide capacity. 3. Profitability progression in Optical Networks and overall OpEx growth given increased investments: Analysts asked if Nokia was still on track for double-digit operating margins in Optical and about the mix of increased costs. Management affirmed the double-digit operating margin target for Optical, noting they are ahead on synergy captures from Infinera. They explained that investments are across R&D, sales & marketing, and production (including CapEx for the fab and scaling supply chain capability) to capture long-term growth opportunities, which will impact margins in the short term but are accretive to operating profit.Net sales grew 4%. Network Infrastructure sales grew 6%. Optical Networks net sales grew 20%. IP Network sales grew 3%. Fixed Networks declined by 13%. Mobile Infrastructure net sales grew 3%. Core software sales grew 5%. Radio Networks sales were flat. Technology Standards sales grew 10%. Sales to AI and Cloud customers grew 49%. Sales to Mission-critical Enterprise and Defense grew 19%. Technology licensing grew 10%. Sales to telecom customers declined by 2%.
· 2025Q4 Earnings Call
3 Things Management Is Most Focused OnCall Takeaway & TonePrior Quarter'S Y/Y Growth By Segment3 Things Analysts Most Pressed On (And Mgmt Responses)Revenue Segments
1. Disciplined execution and capturing growth in AI and cloud: Management emphasized disciplined execution, particularly in Network Infrastructure (Optical and IP Networks), to capitalize on strong structural demand from AI and cloud customers. They are investing to capture near-term demand and maintain a long-term perspective on the AI super cycle opportunity. 2. Increasing efficiency and simplifying the operating model: The company is focused on improving profitability and efficiency through a simplified operating model, cost-cutting programs (targeting EUR 800M to EUR 1.2B savings by end of 2026), and strategic integrations like the full ownership of Nokia Shanghai Bell for cost synergies (EUR 200M run rate). This also includes deprioritizing certain low-margin products in Fixed Networks and moving some businesses into a new 'Portfolio Businesses' unit to determine their future direction. 3. Long-term technology leadership and portfolio competitiveness: Management is investing in 5G advanced, O-RAN, 6G, and AI-native networks in Mobile Infrastructure, and expanding into data center switching and advanced optical technologies (800-gig ZR/ZR+ pluggables, future 1.6/3.2 terabit) in Network Infrastructure. They are also establishing Nokia Defense as a new incubation unit to serve defense markets with 4G/5G technology.The call presented a cautiously optimistic and disciplined tone. Nokia delivered Q4 2025 results in line with expectations, with overall net sales up 3% and Network Infrastructure showing strong growth (+7%), particularly in Optical Networks (+17%), driven by AI and cloud demand. Management is focused on disciplined execution to capitalize on the AI super cycle, enhance efficiency through a simplified operating model and cost-cutting, and invest in long-term technology leadership across its segments. While Mobile Networks showed Q4 growth, the company anticipates headwinds in 2026 from prior contract losses in North America. Analysts pressed on the seemingly conservative Optical guidance, increased CapEx, and the ramp-up of IP Networks, to which management consistently reiterated a long-term, strategic investment approach and a commitment to predictable execution despite market transitions and varying business cycles. The company is actively managing supply chain constraints and is well-positioned with its vertical integration in optical technology.Network Infrastructure: +11% Y/Y (Q3 2025). Optical Networks: +25% Y/Y (Q3 2025). Fixed Networks: -1% Y/Y (Q3 2025). IP Networks: +5% Y/Y (Q3 2025). Mobile Networks: -15% Y/Y (Q3 2025). Cloud and Network Services: -12% Y/Y (Q3 2025). Nokia Technologies: +3% Y/Y (Q3 2025).1. Optical Network growth guidance for 2026 (10-12%) vs. Q4 2025 performance (17%) and Q1 2026 sub-seasonal trend: Management responded that the 10-12% guidance for Optical Networks is balanced, reflecting the transition from a heavily telco-centric base in 2025 (70-30 telco-to-AI/cloud) and the need to scale production. They remain optimistic about the long-term opportunity but are disciplined in execution and predictability. For Q1 2026, the sub-seasonal trend is attributed to normalization after a stronger-than-normal Q4 2025, especially in Mobile Networks and telco customer purchasing patterns. 2. Increased CapEx (EUR 900M-EUR 1B) and visibility on order book/hyperscaler wins: Management stated that the CapEx investment, particularly in Optical manufacturing (semiconductor manufacturing), is for long-term trends and is supported by near-term demand. It is focused on bringing a new indium phosphide fab online later this year to support 2027 demand, which is critical for Nokia's photonic integrated circuit differentiation. They have confidence in the long-term market potential driven by AI infrastructure build-out. 3. IP Networks growth (5% in FY25) and what is needed for acceleration: Management acknowledged that IP Networks is 'a little further behind' compared to Optical. They are pleased with the Q4 design win and order backlog but expect it to 'take a little bit of time to ramp.' They highlighted the appointment of a new Head of IP Networking with deep data center experience as a step to accelerate growth, emphasizing the business's potential as a 'big tailwind' from AI and data center build-out.Overall Net Sales: +3% Y/Y. Network Infrastructure: +7% Y/Y, driven by Optical Networks (+17% Y/Y). Fixed Networks: Stable Y/Y (Fiber OLT +16% Y/Y, offset by declines in deprioritized CPE products). Cloud and Network Services: -4% Y/Y (Q4), but +6% for full year 2025. Mobile Networks: +6% Y/Y. Nokia Technologies: -17% Y/Y. IP Networks: No specific Q4 Y/Y growth provided, but full year 2025 growth was 5%.
Transcript Tidbits2 rows
About Expanding Eligible MarketAbout CompetitionAbout The Broader IndustryWhere Things Are HeadedUpdates On ThemeBroader Themes EmergingBullish-Leaning Quotes (Short)Bearish-Leaning Quotes (Short)Hiring
Nokia saw strong momentum with AI and cloud customers, with net sales growing 49% and EUR 1 billion in new orders, particularly driven by Optical Networks. The company now expects its AI and cloud addressable market to grow at a 27% CAGR between 2025 and 2028, up from the 16% previously shared. This implies the addressable market for network infrastructure growing at a 14% CAGR, up from 9%. Growth assumptions for network infrastructure in 2026 have been increased to 12% to 14% (from 6% to 8%), and for Optical and IP networks combined, to 18% to 20% (from 10% to 12%). Mission-critical Enterprise and Defense grew 19%, and Technology licensing grew 10%. Nokia also launched an out-of-band management solution for data centers in Fixed Networks.Nokia's new hyperscale multi-rail solution delivers an 8x increase in density and is 25% more dense than competing products announced recently. The Core software segment gained market share and delivered 6 competitive swaps. Nokia's Doksuri remote radio heads offer a 30% improvement in power efficiency and up to a 25% reduction in weight compared to competitors. The company believes there is no geopolitical dynamic affecting hyperscalers' willingness to announce partnerships with Nokia, attributing the lack of announcements to customer preference and Nokia's diversified business model.The AI super cycle demand has accelerated, with expectations for the largest hyperscalers' CapEx in 2026 increasing from $540 billion to over $700 billion. AI-driven traffic is estimated at around 20% of total network traffic, and machine-to-machine traffic from agentic and physical AI adoption is expected to drive a step change in network traffic, representing a structural market shift for multiple years. The industry is scaling from hundreds to thousands of fibers between data centers. There are general constraints in the semiconductor ecosystem, leading to elongated order cycles and demand for longer-term commitments. The overall telecom market is seen as relatively flat. The optical industry's cost curve is structurally coming down, enabling scaling, but memory costs are a structural pivot causing some price increases that Nokia is managing.Nokia's focus is on delivering through the year and maximizing growth opportunities, particularly in AI and cloud. New hyperscale multi-rail solutions will begin shipping later this year, and a new building block architecture with 4 optical engines will begin sampling in H1 2027 and ship in volume in H2 2027. IP Networks design wins are expected to translate into new orders in coming quarters, with growth accelerating in Q2. The new indium phosphide manufacturing facility in San Jose, California, is on track to begin ramping production later this year. Fixed Networks sales trends are expected to improve as the year progresses. Nokia aims to slightly increase Network Infrastructure operating margin for the full year, prioritizing investment for long-term growth. Mobile Infrastructure gross margins are expected to be weaker in Q2 and Q3, then stronger in Q4. The group's financial outlook remains unchanged, tracking somewhat above the midpoint of the EUR 2 billion to EUR 2.5 billion comparable operating profit range. Q2 net sales are assumed to increase 5% to 9% sequentially, with Q2 operating profit accounting for 12% to 16% of the full year.AIGeneral semiconductor supply chain constraints are impacting lead times across the industry. There is a broader trend of elongation in order cycles, with customers seeking longer-term commitments, which aids predictability and capacity planning.Our first quarter gave us a solid start to 2026. Net sales grew 4% to EUR 4.5 billion. We saw strong momentum with AI and cloud customers. Net sales grew 49%, and we received EUR 1 billion in new orders. At the group level, book-to-bill was above 1. Expectations have increased to over $700 billion for hyperscaler CapEx. We now expect our AI and cloud addressable market to grow at a 27% CAGR. This is already benefiting Nokia in orders and in revenue. Our next-generation hyperscale multi-rail solution delivers an 8x increase in density and is 25% more dense than competing products. For Optical and IP networks combined, we expect growth of 18% to 20%. Core software had another strong quarter, growing 5% and gaining market share. Optical Networks had another strong quarter with 20% net sales growth. We are currently tracking somewhat above the midpoint of the range for comparable operating profit. We aim for double-digit operating margins [in Optical]. We are on track or actually ahead of our targets when it comes to synergy captures [from Infinera].Fixed Networks declined by 13%, reflecting our portfolio strategy to focus on higher-margin products. We continue to expect some gross margin headwinds through the year as a result of product mix. Operating margin was 6.7%, 30 basis points below the previous year as we had a full quarter of Infinera expenses. We expect Mobile Infrastructure gross margins in the second and third quarters to be somewhat weaker. The decline among telecom customers was partly related to some of the portfolio decisions we are taking in Fixed Networks. Overall, we continue to see the telecom market as relatively flat. Quarter 2 is typically a seasonally low period for cash as we pay employee cash incentives. IP networking business has been a little bit lumpy as we drive the growth. Fixed Networks was a bit of a tough quarter. We expect to continue to have some headwind on the CPE side. Always when you're starting with the new products, it takes some time to get the profitability up.
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Nokia is expanding its eligible market by focusing on AI and cloud customers, delivering EUR 2.4 billion in orders from this segment in 2025. The company is making progress in data center switching, launching new products and securing a design win for its next-generation platform, expecting revenue to ramp over time. The mission-critical enterprise segment shows strong book-to-bill, with a growing pipeline. Nokia Defense, a new incubation unit, is targeting the defense market for Finland and NATO countries, seeing growing demand for 4G and 5G technology in military environments. Full ownership of Nokia Shanghai Bell provides greater operational flexibility in China.In Mobile Infrastructure, Nokia is focused on disciplined execution in a largely stable market, investing in 5G advanced, O-RAN, 6G, and AI-native networks to establish long-term leadership. The company secured a market share expansion deal with Telecom Italia and contract extensions with Telefonica Germany and SoftBank. Nokia is not chasing revenue for revenue's sake in Mobile Infrastructure, prioritizing gross margin and profit while maintaining necessary scale.The AI super cycle is making optical networking an even more critical part of infrastructure, driving strong structural demand. The AI data center build has been consistently constrained by power, connectivity, computational silicon, and memory. The optical market is becoming more mature and larger due to AI infrastructure build-out, requiring significant investment in the ecosystem. Regulatory initiatives like the Cybersecurity Act and Digital Networks Act are seen as opportunities for Europe to reshape its long-term competitiveness in technology, infrastructure, and national security, requiring support for network operators for accelerated CapEx programs. The mobile radio market is expected to be quite stable in 2026, with some regional variations.Nokia is repositioning for long-term value creation, focusing on differentiation, scale, and sustainable market leadership. The company aims for disciplined execution to capture growth in AI and cloud, increase efficiency, and build a high-performance culture. Network Infrastructure, particularly Optical and IP Networks, is expected to be the primary growth engine, targeting 6% to 8% CAGR between 2025 and 2028 for the segment and 10% to 12% for combined Optical and IP Networks. Mobile Infrastructure will focus on gross margin and efficiency, investing for long-term success in AI-native networks and 6G. Nokia expects 2026 operating profit in the range of EUR 2 billion to EUR 2.5 billion, making meaningful progress towards long-term targets.AIEuropean competitiveness in technology and infrastructure, driven by regulatory acts like the Cybersecurity Act and Digital Networks Act. Persistent supply chain constraints across the AI infrastructure build, including power, connectivity, computational silicon, and memory.Net sales grew 3% in the quarter to EUR 6.1 billion, with operating profit of EUR 1 billion and free cash flow of EUR 0.2 billion. Network Infrastructure... net sales grew 7%, driven by optical networks, which grew by 17%. Order intake was solid across both optical and IP networks with a book-to-bill above 1, supported by particularly strong demand from AI and cloud customers. For the full year 2025, we delivered EUR 2.4 billion in orders from AI and cloud customers. Our 800-gig ZR and ZR+ pluggable products are shipping with initial units performing well in the field. We now have multiple design wins and are supplying into scale deployments. We also secured a design win for our next-generation data center switching platform. In our mission-critical enterprise customer segment, book-to-bill was well above 1 in Q4, supported by a growing pipeline from both new and existing customers. Our fiber OLT business grew 16% year-over-year. Core Software... leveraging our differentiated cloud-native core network stack to grow faster than the market and continue improving profitability. During the quarter, we won a 5G core deal with Telia and announced the collaboration with Bharti Airtel on Nokia's Network as Code API platform. We now have more than 75 partners using the platform, including 43 telcos. We also announced a market share expansion deal with Telecom Italia, along with contract extensions with Telefonica Germany and SoftBank. Technology standards remains focused on securing long-term monetization of Nokia's patent assets. We signed several deals in Q4 and continue to maintain a contracted net sales run rate of approximately EUR 1.4 billion. We see growing demand for our 4G and 5G technology in military environments, both for national security and tactical applications. Network Infrastructure remains our primary growth engine, particularly Optical and IP Networks, where we see strong structural demand. We are targeting an operating profit in the range of EUR 2 billion to EUR 2.5 billion [in 2026]. Our first KPI is to deliver 6% to 8% compound annual growth in network infrastructure between 2025 and 2028 on a constant currency and portfolio basis and 10% to 12% in the combined Optical and IP Networks businesses. In 2026, we expect growth rates in both cases to be in line with these long-term targets. We expect measured margin expansion as we ramp new products and continuing investing in the long-term growth opportunity we see in the business. AI & Cloud customers accounted for 16% of our net sales and 30% of Optical Networks. The book-to-bill for the overall segment was above 1 with strength in IP and Optical Networks. Mobile Networks, net sales increased by 6%, and this was driven by growth in Middle East and Africa, Japan and Indonesia. We're excited about the order momentum. I continue to be very optimistic about this business and the long-term opportunity. I'm really, really pleased with the design win we had in Q4... I'm pleased with the order backlog. We definitely see opportunities, and that's why we believe that it's the right timing to invest more, to capture those opportunities. We're pleased with this [Cybersecurity Act, Digital Networks Act]. I mean, this is -- these are some of the things we've been calling for. Europe is incredibly well positioned... to reshape its long-term competitiveness. We're favorably positioned with our indium phosphide technology and manufacturing facility. Our ambition is that whenever there's opportunities to gain market share, we will capture those opportunities in the mobile side as well.Operating margin was 17.3%, and this is 90 basis points below the prior year, impacted primarily by increased investments in growth areas, including the Infinera acquisition. Fixed Networks... deprioritizing certain customer premises equipment products where we do not have meaningful differentiation and which dilute margins. In 2026, we continue to expect some top line headwinds from prior contract losses [in Mobile Infrastructure]. Portfolio Businesses... In 2025, these businesses generated net sales of EUR 850 million and an operating loss of EUR 97 million. Cloud and Network Services, where we saw a decline by 4% in the quarter, and this was mainly due to a different phasing of revenue recognition this year. Operating profit was impacted by a EUR 20 million impairment charge, and this is related to a prior asset purchase, which we deem to have minimal future value. In North America, we saw strong growth in Networks Infrastructure, whilst Cloud and Network Services and Mobile Networks declined. In APAC, Japan and Indonesia grew, while we saw declines in India and Greater China. For quarter 1, historic seasonality would imply a 24% sequential decline in our net sales... we currently expect quarter 1 2026 net sales to decline somewhat more than normal seasonality would imply. We also assume the operating margin to be only slightly better than the prior year [for Q1 2026]. We are still transitioning from a base that was, was still very telco-centric in '25, so 70-30. This is a space where I've been even a little further behind [IP Networking]. This business needs a little bit of time to ramp [IP Networking]. The consistent thing in the AI data center build, AI infrastructure build has been there have been constraints. We do see supply constraints that's normal with this kind of scale and build. In '26, we will see some headwinds from North America in the Radio Access Network side, considering the customer losses that we had, and that will have an impact. Always when you have new product introductions, there will be an impact on gross margin as well. We invest in more in our opportunities in AI & Cloud, which will have an impact on the OpEx as well. This is a transformational year. We are still doing a lot of changes and securing that we are very lean and mean and efficient machine.Nokia expects to deliver approximately EUR 200 million of run rate cost synergies from the Nokia Shanghai Bell integration over 24 to 36 months, with integration costs of EUR 350 million to EUR 400 million, implying workforce adjustments. The company has a cost-cutting and efficiency program running until the end of 2026, aiming for EUR 800 million to EUR 1.2 billion in savings, with associated costs. This continuous focus on efficiency is becoming part of Nokia's DNA.
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2026-04-23Nokia reported a solid Q1 2026, with net sales up 4% and strong free cash flow. Driven by accelerating AI/cloud demand, Network Infrastructure guidance was significantly raised for 2026 (Optical and IP Networks to 18-20%). Despite increased investments impacting H1 margins, the market reacted positively, with the stock outperforming SPY by over 5% (6.09% vs 0.56%), validating Nokia's strategic focus on the AI super cycle.Earnings TranscriptPositiveFalse+6.09% (vs SPY: +5.53%)
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NOK_48fad5fclater this year2026-07-012026-12-31Nokia to begin trials and proofs-of-concept for its AI-RAN platform.Successful trials could validate Nokia's innovation in AI-native networks and 6G, potentially leading to future commercial deployments and strengthening its long-term technology leadership and market position.Ticker2026-01-29earnings_transcript
NOK_075dcb1bover a period of 24 to 36 months2026-01-012028-12-31Nokia to deliver approximately EUR 200 million of run rate cost synergies from the full ownership of Nokia Shanghai Bell.Achieving these synergies is crucial for improving operational efficiency and profitability, directly impacting Nokia's financial results and demonstrating successful integration of the acquired entity.Ticker2026-01-29earnings_transcript
NOK_ea1e2ff1In 2026, we expect measured margin expansion as we ramp new products and continuing investing in the long-term growth opportunity we see in the business.2026-01-012026-12-31Nokia expects measured operating margin expansion in its Network Infrastructure segment, driven by new product ramps and investments.Margin expansion in this key growth segment is critical for overall profitability and achieving the long-term target of 13-17% operating margin by 2028, signaling successful execution of its growth strategy.Ticker2026-01-29earnings_transcript
NOK_8f25224aIn 2026, our target is to conclude a future direction for each of them.2026-01-012026-12-31Nokia aims to conclude the future strategic direction for its Portfolio Businesses unit, which generated an operating loss in 2025.This decision will impact the profitability of these businesses (currently loss-making) and could involve divestitures, restructuring, or renewed investment, directly affecting Nokia's overall financial performance and strategic focus.Ticker2026-01-29earnings_transcript
NOK_335ff958running until end of '262026-01-012026-12-31Nokia's cost-cutting and efficiency program is set to conclude by the end of 2026, with expected savings between EUR 800 million to EUR 1.2 billion.The successful completion and full realization of these cost savings are crucial for improving Nokia's profitability and operational efficiency, contributing significantly to its financial targets.Ticker2026-01-29earnings_transcript
NOK_cc49464fthe urgency is now that we need to continue to move2026-01-292027-01-29Increased clarity and support from European regulators for network operators regarding the implementation of the EU Cybersecurity Act (CSA) and Digital Networks Act (DNA).Clear regulatory frameworks and financial support are essential for accelerating network upgrades and replacements in Europe, which could drive significant demand for Nokia's 4G/5G, fiber, and transport network technologies.Theme2026-01-29earnings_transcript
NOK_ecea9b8flater this year2026-07-012026-12-31Nokia expects its new indium phosphide fab, partially funded by the U.S. CHIPS Act, to come online.This new fab is critical for supporting the strong demand for optical networks and meeting Nokia's longer-term forecast, enhancing its capacity and differentiation in photonic integrated circuits.Ticker2026-01-29earnings_transcript
NOK_a58f4f09second half, we should see improvement in the margins in this field as well.2026-07-012026-12-31Nokia anticipates margin improvement in its Network Infrastructure segment in the second half of 2026, following new product launches in the first half.This improvement is crucial for achieving the segment's full-year margin expansion target and demonstrates the successful ramp-up and profitability of new optical and IP network products.Ticker2026-01-29earnings_transcript
NOK_38092503later this year2026-07-012026-12-31Nokia begins shipping its next-generation hyperscale multi-rail optical solution, designed to scale fiber capacity for AI and cloud customers.Successful ramp and adoption of this high-density product could significantly boost Network Infrastructure revenue and market share, supporting the increased growth guidance for Optical Networks.Ticker2026-04-23earnings_transcript
NOK_4e719a9dlater this year2026-07-012026-12-31Nokia's new indium phosphide manufacturing facility in San Jose, California, is on track to begin ramping production.This facility is critical for scaling optical component production, addressing supply constraints, and enabling Nokia to meet the increased demand from AI and cloud customers, directly impacting Network Infrastructure growth.Ticker2026-04-23earnings_transcript
NOK_7d54a37ein quarter 22026-04-012026-06-30IP Networks sales growth is expected to accelerate in Q2 2026 as Nokia ramps shipments tied to new design wins with AI and cloud customers.This acceleration is a key driver for Nokia's increased growth assumptions for Optical and IP Networks combined, and its realization is crucial for meeting updated guidance and investor sentiment.Ticker2026-04-23earnings_transcript
NOK_a9e46b41by the end of the year2026-10-012026-12-31Nokia is on track to begin field trials for its AI RAN solution in partnership with NVIDIA.Successful field trials could validate Nokia's software-driven approach to Mobile Infrastructure, potentially leading to new revenue streams and improved profitability in a market focused on efficiency and new services.Ticker2026-04-23earnings_transcript
NOK_6638495csecond and third quarters to be somewhat weaker and then much stronger in quarter 42026-04-012026-12-31Mobile Infrastructure gross margins are expected to be weaker in Q2 and Q3 2026, followed by a significant improvement in Q4 2026 due to typical seasonality.This margin progression is important for meeting the full-year profitability targets for the Mobile Infrastructure segment, which is focused on improving profitability rather than top-line growth.Ticker2026-04-23earnings_transcript
NOK_2d2db82dquarter 22026-04-012026-06-30Nokia's Q2 2026 net sales are assumed to increase sequentially by 5% to 9%.Meeting or exceeding this sequential increase is crucial for demonstrating continued momentum and progress towards the full-year guidance, especially after a solid Q1 start.Ticker2026-04-23earnings_transcript
NOK_e7255c89by next year2027-01-012027-12-31Achievement of double-digit operating margins in Nokia's Optical Networks business.This is a key profitability target, driven by Infinera integration synergies and scale, and achieving it would significantly boost overall company profitability and investor confidence.Ticker2026-04-23earnings_transcript
NOK_8577a046first half of 20272027-01-012027-06-30Nokia begins sampling products based on its new building block architecture with four optical engines.This new architecture aims to simplify deployment and reduce total cost of ownership for customers by up to 70%, potentially driving significant future orders and strengthening Nokia's long-term competitive position in the optical market.Ticker2026-04-23earnings_transcript